Model: Model 1939 VIS-35. Serial Number: 34883. Year of Manufacture: 1936-1939. Action Type: Single Action Semi Auto with Removable Magazine. Markings: There are a number of light proof marks on the right side of the trigger guard and trigger. The right side of the frame is marked “34883”.
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An estimated 313,000 P.359(p) pistols were made for the German Army during 1939-1945; based on the serial number, this pistol was made in 1942. Principal markings: “J0786” - serial number; “F.B. 15567” - manufacturer and model; “P.35(p)” - model; eagle over “WaA77” – German military acceptance. 15567: Finish: military-finish; blued. Grips: redish-brown chequered Bakelit grips. On left side FB logo. On right side VIS logo: Serial number: 4-digit number with prefix on right frame. 4-digit number with prefix inside slide. 3-digit number on barrel. Acceptance stamp: E/77 left on slide. E/77 left on frame. Polish Radon Vis 35 9mm Calibre: 9mm Date: Circa 1939-1941 Serial No: 8073 Price: £1,295. Markings: The left side of the slide is marked “F. RADOM VIS MOD.35. Nr.15567 / “P.35 (p.)””, an Eagle holding a globe with Swastika, “Eagle / WaA77” (Waffenamt Used in Poland at Radom) and “Eagle / 623” (Waffenamt for Final Acceptance at Steyr). The left side of the frame is also marked with an “Eagle /.
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Largely considered as one of the best engineered pistols of the European WWII era, the VIS 35 was Poland's ultimate small arms achievement. Though it is uniquely patented, the pistol's design borrows heavily from the Belgian Browning Hi Power. Pre-war production (1936-1939) featured a prominent Polish Eagle on the left slide, and the guns were meticulously buffed and finished.
When the Germans overran Poland in late 1939, they resumed production at the Radom Arsenal utilizing existing inventory. By mid to late 1940, they began making new product. The Polish Eagle was discontinued, and the Germans renamed the gun as the P35(p). Early occupation production had the new designation stamped on the slide, and the pistol retained its features such as the quality finish, the shoulder stock slot in the rear grip frame, and the takedown lever. Serial numbering was changed to the typical German alphabet prefix style. The Nazis assigned the Waffenamt inspection of WaA77 (later Eagle over 77). Final assembly and acceptance was assigned to the Steyr Arsenal in Austria, with Waffenamt WaA623. Magazines featured the inspection of E/189.
As the war progressed, the Germans sought to speed production and cut costs. The stock slot was discontinued. The takedown lever was eliminated, and instead incorporated with the decocking device. The P35(p) was discontinued on the slide, the relief recesses were no longer milled behind the trigger on the frame, grip screw pillar escutcheons were eliminated, telescoping guide rod replaced with a solid rod, and the plastic grip panels were replaced with wood. Outward appearance was no longer a concern, and the polished finish yielded to the rough machined finish. The latest guns were parkerized instead of blued.
For identification purposes of war-time pistols, some collectors will follow a system of Grades I-IV to denote the feature elimination progression. Others identify by the First Alphabet and Second Alphabet serial number series. And still others call them Slotted and Non-Slotted, or Three Lever and Two Lever.
By mid to late 1944, the Soviets were advancing toward Poland, and the Germans began moving the entire VIS 35 production from the Radom Arsenal in Poland to the Steyr Arsenal in Austria.
Can't really say that I absorb all the Grade Types and Sub-variants, so I'll call mine a two lever, d-prefix from the second alphabet, no stock slot, non P35(p) legend, E/77 slide and frame, WaA623 slide, telescoping guide rod, E/189 mag, and nice black plastic grips without screw pillars.
It is an early 1944 gun and has some light high edge wear, a small rub on the right slide, a light scratch or two, and some moderate grip strap thinning. Bore is bright and sharp.
Although the lighting and exposure don't always pick up proper hue in the pics, it's a very nice dark blue with 90-plus% coverage. Machining is crude and rough, just like it should be, and just the way I like it!
My holster is extremely interesting. It began life as M1898 Austrian Rast Gasser revolver holster. It was likely modified in WWI to incorporate a shoulder harness. In WWII, the shoulder harness was eliminated, and the large trigger guard section was reduced to accept the smaller frame of the VIS 35.
This is a very uncommonly found holster design, and I have only found reference to three others with similar alterations.
The rest of the pics, and thanks for looking.
-Matt
Fb Radom Vis Mod 35 Serial Numbers List
The Radom was one of the favourites of the German troops. It was produced up to end of war The last ones (the Polish production site was occupied by the Russians) were produced in Steyr, Austria.
Technical data:
Caliber: | 9 mm Para |
Function: | Browning 2nd variation; hammer outside; slide catch |
Barrel length: | ca. mm |
Weight: | ca. g |
Magazine capacity: | Schuss |
Production data:
Company: | Fybryka Broni w Radomiu Steyr-Werke |
Location: | Radom Steyr |
Period: | 1939 - 1945 |
Amount: | 313,000 pieces |
Serial numbers: | 001 - 49400 Polish weapons A001 - Z10000 German 1st alphabet-series A001 - K9150 German 2nd alphabet-series |
The Radom produced by the Germans is split in 3 major variations (grades), according finish, existing of stock slut and the presence of the demounting lever.
Grade I (subvariation 3: highpolish-finish; stock slut; with stamped P.35(p) at the slide legend; approx. 47,000 pcs.)
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Characteristics:
Fb Radom Vis Model 35 Serial Numbers
Legend: | RADOM VIS Mod. 35 Pat. Nr. 15567 'P.35(p)' |
Finish: | highpolish-finish; blued |
Grips: | black chequered Bakelit grips on left side FB logo on right side VIS logo |
Serial number: | 4-digit number with prefix on right frame 4-digit number with prefix inside slide 3-digit number on barrel |
Acceptance stamp: | E/77 left on slide E/77 left on frame E/77 right on frame E/77 right on barrel E/623 left on slide (final acceptance at Steyr) E/189 on mag base |
Test proof stamp: | E HK left on slide E HK left on barrel |